2 builders who never spoke to each other · contested
Decide how loud the pitch inside the content is
A mention that arrives as a quiet line at the end converts through sheer volume of readers and costs no goodwill, while a full argument for the thing converts a smaller audience much harder. Both are working tactics, and the choice is really about whether you are optimising for the relationship or for this month. Either way the piece has to be worth the reader's time if nobody buys.
Where this splits
Welsh keeps the product mention small and never issues an instruction to buy, while Barry argues that when the pitch comes it must be a full case rather than a passing mention.
side 01 · 4 claims
Keep the product mention small and never instruct
Cory Zue · Justin Welsh
- 1Place the product mention quietly at the end of every long piece instead of asking anyone to buy, so the whole thing runs as arithmetic: impressions, then visitors, then product views, then revenue.
- 2Word the ask as an invitation to consider the product rather than an instruction to buy it.
- 3Inside that article, link the product and say in a line why it fixes the problem the article just described, or leave a light reminder at the end.
- 4Write sale announcements in a voice that puts the reader's interest first and gives them explicit permission to ignore it, rather than pressing.
side 02 · 2 claims
When the pitch comes, make it a full argument
Nathan Barry
- 1When the pitch finally comes, make it a full argument, what is inside, who is interviewed, what difference it makes, not a passing mention
- 2Make the sales email useful on its own, with stories and examples and a narrative that is not just an instruction to buy.
What it returned
- 3,600
Of the 3,600 readers who arrived from that single post, 73 bought something, worth $4,527.
Welsh learned this recommendation style building sales teams in tech.
Welsh's argument is that the reader has just finished reading about the problem, so an action step reads as a progression rather than a pitch.
A reader replied that he found himself wanting the product before noticing it was a pitch
Sources
- My $4.8M Social Media Sales FunnelJustin Welsh · justinwelsh.me · Step 3: Link To A Product (In The Article) · 2023-10-14
- The Newsletter Tactic That Boosts Sales (Without Feeling Sleazy)Justin Welsh · justinwelsh.me · 3. Use a 'Recommendation Selling' Approach · 2024-04-20
- The Hub and Spoke Content Model for Social MediaJustin Welsh · justinwelsh.me · Step 4: Point your social content back to the Hub piece with your CTA · 2022-07-09
- The Best Marketing Method I KnowNathan Barry · nathanbarry.com · So let's keep adding value. · 2013-02-01 · dissenting
- How to write marketing emails that don’t suckNathan Barry · nathanbarry.com · Teach · 2013-04-12 · dissenting
- Lessons from Running a Sale that Earned 3 Month's Profit in a WeekCory Zue · coryzue.com · Deciding to run a sale by overcoming the “ickiness factor” · 2020-12-09
the second source
Three plays a week, for the phase you are in
No roundup of links, no news. Three tactics more than one builder arrived at separately, with the numbers each one returned and the disagreements left in.
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