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standing

contested · 1 claims against 1

applies to

b2b, no audience needed

assumes $100 and up

mixed results

confidence

high

evidence

3 claims · 3 articles · 3 receipts

window

2019-10-012021-08-02

2 builders who never spoke to each other · contested

Refund without argument, or tighten the window

One position is that a dispute costs more than the money ever did, so refund anyone who asks even years later and never refuse. The other comes from a high priced product where two refunds wiped out a month's profit, which argues for a shorter window on expensive licences. Both treat the refund request itself as product feedback: it says the price and the delivered value are out of line.


What both sides agree on

  • Read refund requests as product feedback rather than accounting noise, and treat them as evidence the price and the value are out of line.

Where this splits

Jarvis refunds anyone who asks regardless of how long ago they bought, while Zue shortened his refund window because a couple of top tier refunds erased a month of profit.

1 claims against 1

Paul Jarvis

Refund anyone who asks, without argument

  1. 01Refund anyone who asks, without argument and past your stated window, because a payment dispute costs you far more than the money does.
the objection · 1 claimCory Zue

Shorten the window on high priced licences

Shorten your refund window on high-priced licenses, because a couple of refunds on your top tier can wipe out a month's profit.


What it returned

  • $1,500

    Two unlimited license refunds totalling $1,500 turned $6,000 of Pegasus sales into $3,723.11 of profit, prompting Zue to plan cutting his 30-day refund policy to 14 days.

  • $195

    Two refunds cost Zue $195 each, one buyer saying they expected more in the package and another finding it too complicated to build on, and they coincided with a ten-day sales drought, the longest since public launch

  • Paul Jarvis has never refused a refund even years after purchase, while chargebacks and false fraud reports arrive at least monthly and damage his standing with Stripe and PayPal.


Sources


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