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contested · 6 claims against 3

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assumes $20 to $100

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9 claims · 2 articles · 3 receipts

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2021-04-012024-03-27

2 builders who never spoke to each other · contested

Treat the lifetime deal as a one-off cash event

Taken once, a lifetime sale is a young company choosing a mid sized pile of cash now over subscription revenue accumulated slowly, and the cohort's feedback compresses years of learning into weeks if you spend the money on the business rather than banking it. The founders who ran one on a deal platform describe the other side: you keep a minority of the revenue, carry the service cost forever, get buyers who wanted a bargain rather than the product, and find the old listing anchoring your price years later. Try an annual plan first, since it raises comparable cash without the open ended obligation.


Where this splits

Kahl, Aubry and Gelb treat a lifetime deal as a legitimate one time funding and marketing event, while Radig says he would not run his again because it brought the wrong buyers and permanently anchored the price.

  1. side 01 · 6 claims

    Run one lifetime deal to fund the young company

    Arvid Kahl · Guillaume Moubeche · Michael Aubry · Robert Gelb

    1. 1Treat a lifetime deal as a once per business event, taken when a young company would rather have a mid sized pile of cash now than accumulate subscription revenue over years.
    2. 2Spend the lifetime deal cash on the business rather than banking it. The cohort's feedback compresses years of learning into weeks, but only if you build on it before the runway is gone.
    3. 3Book a lifetime deal as growth spend rather than lost revenue, which only works if the product has a viral loop that turns those buyers into more buyers.
    4. 4Fund a nearly finished SaaS with a lifetime deal instead of freelancing or raising. Aubry took that route for Motionbox and rebuilt his technical infrastructure while the sale was running.
    5. 5Run the lifetime deal as a marketing and community exercise rather than a funding round. Gelb treated the HeySummit AppSumo deal as a test of product acceptance and willingness to pay that also delivered a crowd of supporters invested in the outcome.
  2. side 02 · 3 claims

    Lifetime deals bring bargain buyers and anchor your price

    Arvid Kahl · Johannes Radig

    1. 1Understand the platform maths before running a deal on AppSumo: you keep 30 percent of the revenue and carry 100 percent of the cost of serving those customers forever.
    2. 2An AppSumo lifetime deal brings feedback and cash but the wrong buyers, and the listing itself anchors your price. Leadsie was still fielding account transfer requests three years later and had to fight to get the old offer page taken down.
    3. 3Asked whether he would run the AppSumo deal again, Radig says probably not. He would rather be patient and figure out the right customer than take anyone who turns up for a bargain.

What it returned

  • $161,896

    Lemlist sold $161,896 in two weeks on AppSumo, kept 30 percent after the 70 percent cut, and took on over 3,000 lifetime customers

  • $60

    A roughly $60 limited lifetime deal from early 2021 still ranking for the brand, anchoring against a $99 a month price, and support requests continuing three years on

  • Motionbox funded its start through a lifetime deal and is still operating


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